I think he realised as the village ... the village he was brought up in, Calbost, the population was declining to only just half a dozen people when we were little and that was nearly fifty years ago. And he realised, when he went off looking for things, how difficult it was to find things, that people had just been throwing things out with modernisation. And he did realise that. I do remember him talking to other adults and people visiting the house: “If I don’t do this it’ll be lost forever. Nobody’ll know anything about it and how we lived,” and that. I do remember him saying that to other people in the house and that was in the 60s.